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Portrayal of Mexican-Americans

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Postby quirky » Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:12 pm

I thought you said the Welsh shagged sheep...

I distinctly remember.....
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Postby fluffy » Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:28 pm

lol.............ahhhh......stereotypes, stereotypes..........lol...........

do you wanna know what the British think of Americans??...........lol.....

no......best not!!........lol

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Postby quirky » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:19 pm

do you wanna know what the British think of Americans??...........lol.....


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After my time in London, I have a pretty good idea. The funny thing about us Americans is, we hear an English accent....even an Eastenders accent and we assume the person is highly intelligent. It only takes the accent.
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Postby fluffy » Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:22 pm

lol.........that's john Cleese etc for you..........lol...they've been great ambassadors for the snooty Englishman stereotype..........lol...

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Re: Portrayal of Mexican-Americans

Postby Michele Hernandez » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:03 am

tomviccon55 wrote:My father joined the army at 17 years of age and joined his four brothers to fight in Europe in WWII. Both of my uncles on my mothers side served in WWII as well. My Grandfather on my mothers side fought in WWI. My Grand Uncle on my fathers side fought in WWI. I lost a second cousin in Korea and one of my cousins fought in Vietnam.
My father came back from Europe and got his degree in Mechanical Engineering as did his old brother. My oldest brother is a lawyer. My nephew is a reporter for the Boston Globe. I have a second cousin that is a doctor working in Houston's Medical Center. We also have a registered nurse, two accountant, artists, musicians. etc.
My Aunt Adella and my Uncle Nick went to the conservatory of music, in the late thirties! My Aunt became a piano teacher and taught hundreds of students to play classical music. My uncle was a fantastic jazz pianist, he passed away this year.



Why does Hollywood continue to portray Mexican-Americans as gardeners,
illegal immigrants and house keepers? We are dark rich brown Mestizo (Spanish and Indigenous) Mexican-Americans and we work in all industries and professions. ....I can't even speak Spanish!
Did you know Mr. Carrey, that Mexicans and Mexican-Americans have fought in every American war, including the Revolutionary War.

If you were to beleive Hollywood, Mexican-Americans never contributed to the growth or the development of this country. Saving Private Ryan did not portray one Mexican-American in WWII, though we served and died in great numbers. Pearl Harbor, Hamburger Hill....My uncle Ernest helped to liberate a concentration camp during WWII, but Spielberg refused to cast a Mexican-American in Schindlers List or in any of his movies for that matter.

And by the way, this is a very funny movie, but I must stand up for my people.....and I could care less what any of you racist think out there, so keep your Klan mentality to yourself.

I'm only asking you Mr. Carrey...help us to stop this disgracefull dicrimination of the Mexican-American in Hollywood. Anthony Quin and Montalban tried to break those barriers, but they were only two Mexican men against a sea of blue eyed racists.

Thanks for giving me a place to post my anger
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Here is my opinion:

Unfortunately, we all make generalizations about anything that is different than us. I agree that Mexico city is very cosmopolitan, like any major city.

But I also get discouraged when I try to be " proactive" , because when you really get high up the chain in any corporation or entity ( maybe Hollywood too ) and try to make a difference, or a complaint, you often find you are only getting closer to the very corruption that you are complaining about. Traditionally in this country, the chances are the CEO, president, whatever , is a white male. That doesn't mean someone else with the same power would act any different, as long as the system we are dealing with is un-changed. It just seems like the white males started the racism in this country. And don't think they haven't worked as a tight knit group in the past.
Women have also experienced prejudice. I won't mention what color I am. I think that we all originate from the same groups of humans, so it doesn't make a difference anyway. We all have quite a bit of color in us, I think.
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Postby Michele Hernandez » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:27 am

1) I love Jim Carrey, as you all know

2) I only wish that the English, French (and Spanish to some degree) back in the 16th, 17th, 18th and 19th centuries wouldn't have been so ignorant in their treatment of the peoples-who-came-before-them. They treated and spoke of them as if they were savage beasts, which we know they were not. They lived in harmony with the earth, as you all well know.

Thanks for letting me post my opinion :D
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Postby fluffy » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:32 am

ahem :roll: ..............i wouldn't like to comment on the misdemeanors of the British going back hundreds of years.........
it's looking forward to a unified Europe thats important to Britain at the moment............
And nor am i gonna apologise for stuff i had no control over........
the key to full integration is a modern, forward thinking view on ALL sides.......and i sympathise with anyone facing any prejudices in their society.........

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Postby quirky » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:33 am

That's cool Michele.

I'm just very sensitive when someone makes a big deal out of a minor thing.

The one thing that NO ONE wants to talk about is reverse racism...and I have been a victim of it SEVERAL times.
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Postby Michele Hernandez » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:39 am

Yah, I know what you mean Quirky.

And I wasn't trying to just blaim the British, The Americans took over and did the same thing.

You know I was thinking.. I did react suddenly when I posted that...on the otherhand, I started to think about big roles that latin americans had had in Jim Carrey's movies. For instance Cameron Diaz is Cuban-American in part, and there was the sexy news caster in Bruce Almighty. (or maybe she just played a hispanic, but in a high-end job) And I always see hispanic names in the credits, so I know they work in production as well.

Also, Jim Carrey was helping immigrants come under the fence into the country, and that was pretty pro-hispanic. The only thing I did notice was I thought the nanny's accent was too exaggerated. There is nothing wrong with being a caregiver though.


As for the landscapers , those contracters make good money if they are self-employed. I think it is a dignified profession, and I don't think it was done malicously in the movie. Sometimes it is hard to know what people want.:D
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Postby quirky » Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:00 am

The Americans took over and did the same thing.




Christina Aguilera, pop singer
Isabel Allende, writer
Roberto Alomar, baseball player
Julia Alvarez, writer
Luis Walter Alvarez, Nobel Prize-winning physicist
Rudolfo Anaya, writer
Desi Arnaz, actor
Judy Baca, artist
Joan Baez, folk singer and activist
David Barkley, soldier and Medal of Honor recipient
Jean-Michel Basquiat, artist
Ruben Blades, actor
Jose Canseco, baseball player
Lynda Carter, actress
Franklin Chang-Dìaz, astronaut
Cesar Chavez, labor leader
Linda Chavez, conservative commentator
Linda Chavez-Thompson, labor leader
Henry Cisneros, U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Sandra Cisneros, writer
Roberto Clemente, baseball player
Celia Cruz, singer
Sammy Davis, Jr., singer, actor
Oscar De La Hoya, boxer
Dolores Del Rio, actress
Cameron Diaz, actress
Gloria Estefan, singer
Emilio Estevez, actor
Andy Garcia, actor
Jerry Garcia, musician
Rupert García, artist
Ernesto Galarza, labor organizer
Roberto C. Goizueta, businessman
Scott Gomez, hockey player
Pancho Gonzalez, tennis player
Salma Hayek, actress
Rita Hayworth, actress
Joseph Marion Hernandez, U.S. congressman
Keith Hernandez, baseball player
Oscar Hijuelos, writer
Maria Hinojosa, journalist
Dolores Huerta, labor leader
Raul Julia, actor
Jose Limon, modern dancer and choreographer
Jennifer Lopez, actress, singer
Nancy Lopez, golfer
Trini Lopez, singer
Juan Marichal, baseball player
Ricky Martin, singer
Melquiades Martinez, U.S. Secretary for Housing and Urban Development
Pedro Martinez, baseball player
Mario Molina, Nobel Prize-winning chemist
Ricardo Montalban, actor
Rita Moreno, actress, singer, dancer
Anthony Munoz, football player
Carlos Noriega, astronaut
Antonia Novello, U.S. Surgeon General
Ellen Ochoa, astronaut
Severo Ochoa, Nobel Prize-winning biochemist
Edward James Olmos, actor
Rosie Perez, actress
Anthony Quinn, actor
José Quintero, theater director
Bill Richardson, Governor of New Mexico
Geraldo Rivera, talk-show host, journalist
Alex Rodriguez, baseball player
Chi Chi Rodriguez, golfer
Linda Ronstadt, singer
John Ruiz, boxer
Alberto Salazar, marathoner
Carlos Santana, guitarist, singer
Luis Santeiro, writer
Selena, singer
Junípero Serra, missionary
Richard Serra, sculptor
Charlie Sheen, actor
Martin Sheen, actor
Jimmy Smits, actor
Sammy Sosa, baseball player
Gary Soto, writer
Nydia Velásquez, U.S. Representative
Lupe Velez, actress
Raquel Welch, actress
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Postby Michele Hernandez » Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:27 am

Thank you, I needed help. :D
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Postby quirky » Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:46 am

Anytime.
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Postby fluffy » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:26 pm

is that a list of famous Mexican people or famous Americans??..........

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Postby quirky » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:16 pm

Well...a lot of people consider their heritage...Americans come in all shapes and sizes and types.

That was a list of notable Hispanic Americans.
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Postby trishroberts » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:31 pm

Although I do partly agree with the person who started this tread, I also think that we've gone mad with all this politicaly correct stuff, I'm sure the hispanic people in the States do a wonderful job in all fields, like any other ethnic group but we cant pretend, there are a lot of hispanic people doing this kind of work. I mean should we have a blue eyed white actor playing Kunta Kintay in Roots (a black slave) because he is capable of playing the part dramatically ? Films like Fun with Dick and Jane make generalisations so we can all understand the premise quickly, as long as this is played well and is historcally correct isnt that ok ?
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